12v 1990 won't start.

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12v 1990 won't start.

Post by fasani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:18 pm

All,

Since march 2018 i own a white 164 3.0 12v V6, the last 7-8 years i was looking for a white 3.0, this 164 is one of the four white V6 in Holland that didn't end for demolation/scrapyard.
I found the car in the basement of a BMW garage/specialist, manufactured in 1990 and after 3 years as companycar she ended in the basement.
After replacing timingbelt, engine-, brake-, steering- and clutch oil, replace all fuel and cooling hoses, sandsblast and powdercoat several parts (a complete story here https://alfa164register.nl/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=10347) it was time to start her.
Unfortunatly she didn't start.

What did i do/checked:

- fuel pressure at the injectorrail, NO
- i checked the fuelpomp connection and it had power.
- i replaced the fuel pomp because it didn't work.
- there was fuel and pressure at the injectorrail connection
- i removed the rails with injector, it doesn't spray fuel from the 3 injectors.

Now i think it is something electrical, anyone can push me a direction where to look further??

hendrik
1993 24v QV Nero / 1993 24v QV Rosso / 1990 12v QV Nero

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Re: 12v 1990 won't start.

Post by fasani » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:50 am

Yesterday after 5 hours testing, checking the white lady finally started.5 of the 6 injectors didn't work.
1993 24v QV Nero / 1993 24v QV Rosso / 1990 12v QV Nero

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Re: 12v 1990 won't start.

Post by Alfan » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:18 pm

Great that you found the solution!

5 out of 6 is a lot, but since it was not used for that long, I guess it is not unexpected.

Enjoy the car, now that you can get behind the wheel :D
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 155kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 90kkm

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Re: 12v 1990 won't start.

Post by fasani » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:31 pm

Alfan wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:18 pm
Great that you found the solution!

5 out of 6 is a lot, but since it was not used for that long, I guess it is not unexpected.

Enjoy the car, now that you can get behind the wheel :D
Perhaps that the start 1 year ago with 15 liter fuel added in the tank causes some dirt in the injectors. indeed 5 out of 6 is a lot...

Not yet Alfan, i wanted to change the blue carpet for black before i install the Recaro seats. Last sunday the carpet was replaced, now i have to put back the parts that i needed to remove. than the black recaro can be mounted.


Here my topic on the dutch site for some pics.

https://www.alfa164register.nl/viewtopi ... 52&t=10347
1993 24v QV Nero / 1993 24v QV Rosso / 1990 12v QV Nero

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Re: 12v 1990 won't start.

Post by MikeCZ » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:38 pm

Really nice work :)
Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995 + Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0JTDm 2011
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Re: 12v 1990 won't start.

Post by fasani » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:27 pm

MikeCZ wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:38 pm
Really nice work :)
Thanks Mike, at the moment working to replace the complete exhaust and brakes. Within a few days i will make the first miles with her since 1994...M.O.T check.
1993 24v QV Nero / 1993 24v QV Rosso / 1990 12v QV Nero

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