Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by alfa east » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:44 pm

I saw that too and it was a very enjoyable review! But disappointing that when he mentioned the Tipo 4 cars he omits the 164!

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:46 pm

Just watched it - missing the 164 was, well, a miss...

But a nice review and he was smiling - as am I while driving my 8.32 at the moment :D
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:49 pm

AlfaWhiz wrote:Great news :!: :)

Keep us posted about the progress on other items too, I'm interested to see if the springs you found will lower the car slightly. I actually think 1-2cm lower would suit it very well and would look into that myself.
I don't expect it to be lowered and that is not the intention either, as I find the underside low enough for regular driving, though it would probably enhance the look.

Anyway, not sure when they will be mounted, as water is getting in the engine oil, so at least a head gasket replacement has to be done - and probably some more stuff when doing that...
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by AlfaWhiz » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:57 pm

I've been through the head gasket situation myself some time ago as you recall... I can only cheer you up by saying that access to a lot of other components will be much easier with the heads off, so good time to have a closer look at the steering rack, starter motor, gearbox linkage bushings (highly recommended), etc. Will be good as new afterwards though. :)

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:07 pm

I will have to look at a look of different things and change the timing belt at the same time, so quite some work ahead.

I did run the tester last weekend, in particular for the 4WD and made a video of testing the pressure, which it fails. I would like to know if others have gotten the same behaviour, so have a look at the video here, please:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7ftrl932n02 ... Bct9a?dl=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The ABS light stays off, and I told another Q4 owner about the solution. He did the same thing and the light stopped coming on when driving, so I think we have confirmed this solution by now :D

Here is a photo from the last 'open garage' we had a couple of weeks ago - in good company :)
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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:37 pm

Not much has happened, but I still drive the Q4 around the building some times. Still runs and sounds fine!

Hopefully this fall/winter will give time to get started on some engine work...

At least it got a good wash to get rid of the dust and did so in good company 8)
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Q4 & 8.32
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by MikeCZ » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:15 am

Really nice duo :)
Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995 + Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0JTDm 2011
Ex: Honda Civic VIII 1.8 2010, Seat Leon ST FR1.4 TSI 2017, Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDm 2007 berlina, Fiat Stilo 1.4 MW 2007

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:10 pm

So it is time to get started on fixing a lot of things on my Q4, but mainly water getting in to the oil. A lot of other stuff also needs to be done, but I took it for a spin around the garage, before starting disassembly.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n2lmjikdsp9v ... cW5pa?dl=0

I have started taking the seats out, so the carpet can come out and be cleaned. Then I can also inspect how it looks underneath. I don't think it has ever been out. Small steps, leading to bigger ones later.... So to be continued :)
1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by finalfa » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:24 am

Keep this updated Alfan! You've got some work ahead of you, but it will definitely be worth it.
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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:50 am

I have started dismantling the inside of my Q4. Next step will be the outside, that is taking down the entire front and rear part of the car. More to follow!
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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm

PIcked up a 1990 TS with 300.000km on the clock. The car drives quite well, but was bought because a new windscreen was available with it (needed for my Q4). It only has little rust and a damaged wind screen, but will most likely be a parts car, as I have enough cars to work on...

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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:56 pm

"Let the fun begin!"

It will be a garage Easter for me, so time to dig in with the Q4 and get it disassembled. Some updates will follow, when my arms and fingers are able to use the keyboard again :)
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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by MikeCZ » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:48 pm

Good luck and keep us posted! :)

Nice garage, btw :wink:
Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 V6TB 1995 + Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0JTDm 2011
Ex: Honda Civic VIII 1.8 2010, Seat Leon ST FR1.4 TSI 2017, Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDm 2007 berlina, Fiat Stilo 1.4 MW 2007

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:31 pm

Doesn't look that different in the photos, but engine is out, apart from one cable to the starter motor - I hope to get the rear taken off the car tomorrow...

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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:33 pm

So I spent a big part of Easter in my garage and managed to get the front and rear off the Q4 - my arms feel a bit longer now!

Getting it all back together will take a lot longer, but I hope to be done some time next year...


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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by Alfan » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:40 pm

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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 Proteo Rosso 550.000km
1989 Lancia Thema 8.32 Verde Indy 270kkm
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 24V Blue Lightning 55kkm
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Multiair TCT Bianco Pastello 185kkm
2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Rosso Competizione 95kkm

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Re: Long time road going 164 Q4 1994 project

Post by 164EVER » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:11 pm

Well long days working coming it seems. I like the red TS with 300000km. Had a look at the picts, and sure it has some rust.........
164 3.0 V6 1988 330000KM
164 2.0 TS 1989 243000KM
164 SUPER 2.5 TD 1993 308000KM
156 1.8 TS 2001 165000KM.
EX : 33 SW 1.5, 1.3 ie, 1.5 ie, 33 1.7 QV 16V, GIULIETTA 116 1.6, ALFA 6 2.5 (X3), 146 boxer 1.6 , 164 SUPER 2.0 TS.

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